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Friday, May 14, 2010

The Truth about Ryman's Nutmeg Sprint

Visit our up to date Setters West website at http://www.setterwest.net/ We keep you informed with new photos and information with our dynamic website. You will find our address, phone # and e-mail address on our website.

You will not find John K. Fetters address or phone # or e-mail on his blogspot. John K. Fetters continues to rant and rave about Setters West and Chris and Rick Taylor on his blogspot http://fetters-setters.blogspot.com/ particularly about "The Strange and Sad Tale of Ryman's Nutmeg Sprint" which like all of his tales concerning other English setter breeders are mostly fiction and this story is documented to show you why John Fetters is so full of himself and nothing else. He also claims to be the only authority on Ryman setters and the only quality breeder and makes desparaging remarks about October's Setters, Ken Alexander, and Jan Turner. He seems to have an obscession with taking pictures of our website and October's Setters' website.

In 1991 Gun Dog Magazine published an article written by Rick Van Etten "The Ryman Setter: A Gentleman's Hunting Dog. Flashback Dixie is pictured in this article (page#43 GDM April May issue) and is described as being three years old and bred by John Fetters as well as co-owned by him and Ron L. Weitosh. Dixie was born in 1984 and I have yet to see any recent photos of Mr. Fetters' setters. Dixie was not bred by John Fetters. She was bred by Malcolm Olson as you will see below.

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Ryman's Flashback Dixie is shown on John Fetters opening page with the description of "Owner: John Fetters, while in the article in the April/May issue of Gun Dog Magazine it states that John Fetters is the breeder and co-owner with Ron Weitosh.

Ryman's Flashback Dixie appears on John Fetters' blogspot (a free way of advertising) and the caption says he is the owner. What happened to Ron Weitosh? Gun dog Magazine says Ron Weitosh is the co-owner of Dixie???

Ryman's Flashback Dixie was born in 1984 and was bred by Malcolm Olson not John Fetters. Ryman's Flashback Dixie is out of Max A Million and Max A. Million who were both owned by Malcolm Olson. Ryman's Flashback Dixie is the grand dam to Ryman's Nutmeg Sprint. Ryman's Blue Haze, Meg's dam, is a sister to Ryman's Eclipse Mist. Ryman's Blue Haze was bred by John K. Fetters and Billlie E. Paxton. Did John Fetters forget that Malcom Olson was the breeder for Ryman's Flashback Dixie when Rick Van Etton wrote the article "The Ryman Setter: A Gentleman's shooting Dog" and that South Tier Bridget was bred by none other than Ken Alexander ? John Fetters denegrates Ken Alexander in his blog post "The Ryman Fallacy". He says "FACT: Ken Alexander (according to his own account) did not come on the scene until 1967 when he claims he became "involved" (whatever that means) with the Ryman kennels ~ and that he was under a contract to breed for the Calkins by 1970. However by that time, the Ryman Setters being sold by Carl and Ellen Calkins were in fact ~ and had been for sometime ~ Ryman Setters in name only. The setters Ken Alexander actually acquired from the Calkins were in fact, Calkins Setters, which had undergone massive in-breedings and massive changes since the time of George Ryman's stroke in 1955. Ken Alexander in fact, never owned a setter personally bred by George H. Ryman." I do not believe John Fetters ever did either. The pedigree below is for both Ryman's Blue Haze and Ryman's Eclipse Mist.
Now this brings me to the Thursday July 9, 2009 blog of John Fetters entitled "The Strange and Sad Tale Regarding Ryman's Nutmeg Sprint ("Meg"). You see by the letter (below) from John Fetters dated April 18, 1994 that he offers Ryman's Nutmeg Sprint and two other dogs to us for sale as breeding stock. It is true that John Fetters never owned Ryman's Nutmeg Sprint, but he did sell all of the dogs in Meg's litter for Malcom and Henrietta Olson. Malcom Olson was the breeder for Ryman's Nutmeg Sprint as he was the breeder for Ryman's Flashback Dixie. In late 1995 we found out where the Olson's lived and contacted Malcom and Henrietta Olson. Malcolm and Henrietta were very helpful in our obtaining Meg's registration. Malcolm and Henrietta Olson informed us that they had never met Mr. Fetters, but that they had met Ron Weitosh and they were told that John K. Fetters was the new owner of the Ryman Gun Dog Kennels and any and all breedings would be sold by John Fetters and he would share the profits with them. The letter from John Fetters offering dogs for sale is to the right and the letter from the Olson's is to the left.




We had purchased both Meg and Flame in the summer of 1994 and by 1996 we still had not gotten the registration from Mr. Fetters. However, Malcom & Henrietta Olson let us know that Mr. McCann had returned Meg to John Fetters kennel and then R.S. McCannthey had returned the registration certificate to Mr. John Fetters. The Olson's assumed it was lost but low and behold John Fetters had it and published it on his google blog site in the Ryman Nutmeg Sprint blog that can be found on his blogspot http://fetters-setters.blogspot.com/


Here is page one of three photo pages that Henrietta Olson sent to us with the above letter.Note Ryman's Flashback Dixie is pictured on the bottom left of page I.


Here is page two which pictures Meg. and her dam and sire. Ryman's Flashback Dixie is pictured on page I as a pup bottom left photo.
And here is page three of the photos the Olson's sent to us.



Below is a copy of the Meg's original application for registration that Malcolm Olson sent us.


To the left is the copy of the individual application for Meg and to the right is a copy of the litter registration.


To the left below is a copy of a letter I wrote to John fetters before I visited his kennel in March of 1995.








Below is a letter that R. S. McCann the original owner of Ryman's Nutmeg Sprint which explains his sending Meg back to Mr. Fetters along with the original registration (no wonder he has it to display on his blogspot.




To the right is the letter which was sent to the American Field along with copies from the Olson's letter, my letter, Mr. McCann's letter and copies of all they sent to us.
And here is the FDSB registration for Meg which was finally issued to us on March 13, 1996.



In August of 1994 John K. Fetters hand wrote a pedigree form for Ryman's Nutmeg Sprint for our records but never gave us the registration for her because it was not in his name. He had it at the time. As you can see from his writing he has the breeder as being "Ryman's Gun Dog Kennels & Malcolm Olson P.O. Box 89, Sandy Ridge, Pennsylvania (which was Mr. Fetters' address).
Here are copies of a two page brochure with photos on both sides of the paper from a brochure that John K. Fetters sent us on "his setters" along with a letter shown below the brochure photos.














Ryman's Nutmeg Sprint was sent back to John Fetters' kennel by Mr. McCann and he sold her to us without having ownership of this dog.
Mr. John K. Fetters had grandiose ideas that he was the new "owner" of the Ryman Gun Dog Kennel along with Maurice H. Ryman until Maurice discovered what John was doing and had his attorney issue the letter pictured on the left below in "Grouse Tales" magazine. The letter was also sent to the District Attorney, the Pointing Dog Journal, Gun Dog Magazine, and The American Field Publishing in March of 1994. By April of 1994 when John Fetters sent us the letter offering Ryman's Nutmeg Sprint and Allegheny Flame for sale, he was trying to disperse the dogs in his kennel that had the Ryman name.